tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post4315344734400158769..comments2023-06-25T04:16:21.410-05:00Comments on Citizens to Preserve Overton Park: Is the Memphis Zoo just Chickasaw Bluffing?Naomi Van Tolhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11132516900840559976noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-38608645260186193462008-05-01T13:49:00.000-05:002008-05-01T13:49:00.000-05:00woohoo! 14 comments. now we're talking. :)jccvi, t...woohoo! 14 comments. now we're talking. :)<BR/><BR/>jccvi, thanks for the compliment about my lamplighter article. i love your idea about collecting stories of park users. i will make that my focus for may. (i saw a documentary about park users from a different city--can't remember which--a few years ago where they just spent a day interviewing various people in the park. it was awesome.)<BR/><BRStacey Greenberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14716896540454461639noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-26250946174330475332008-05-01T12:19:00.000-05:002008-05-01T12:19:00.000-05:00I would also calmly suggest again, from the outsid...I would also calmly suggest again, from the outside, some of the well reasoned criticisms put forth on this site get lost in the tone with which they're presented.jccvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05308158236628593739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-27154706613160980062008-05-01T12:14:00.000-05:002008-05-01T12:14:00.000-05:00I retract what I said about Park Friends bashing, ...I retract what I said about Park Friends bashing, as the part about them having "no concept of the value of the old forest" which doesn't really smack of well reasoned criticism to me, came from a letter to the editor reprinted on the site. As far as I know, the writer doesn't have anything to do with CPOP.jccvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05308158236628593739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-12032004992723665232008-05-01T11:09:00.000-05:002008-05-01T11:09:00.000-05:00What LP said. Also, I don't agree that CPOP has do...What LP said. Also, I don't agree that CPOP has done any "bashing" of Park Friends. Well reasoned criticism isn't the same thing as bashing.<BR/><BR/>Park Friends is a nonprofit that claims to be the "community voice" for our parks. How do they justify their private board meetings and secret negotiations with the Zoo?<BR/><BR/>Their website says they forged an accord with the Zoo to allow parkingAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-29406303334158996712008-04-30T21:53:00.000-05:002008-04-30T21:53:00.000-05:00I was always taught "if you can't stand the heat, ...I was always taught "if you can't stand the heat, then stay out of the kitchen."<BR/><BR/>I'm sure Brian Carter is on some level a very nice and neighborly guy, which is probably why he got the position of Director of communications in the first place. But in this position, one has to be able to take all kinds of flack....and one does NOT earn any points or compliments by avoiding a planned Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-68888443755080645422008-04-30T19:43:00.000-05:002008-04-30T19:43:00.000-05:00Anonymous #2, are you kidding me?!?I think CPOP's ...Anonymous #2, are you kidding me?!?<BR/><BR/>I think CPOP's blogging record clearly demonstrates that we <EM>adore</EM> Brian Carter and want nothing more than to go out for beers and chat about our cute kids, all the crappy bosses we've had to endure, etc., and maybe even go out dancing.<BR/><BR/>Stacey and I were crushed that our buddy didn't show for the Park Friends meeting earlier this monthNaomi Van Tolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132516900840559976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-61971093838069956692008-04-30T19:34:00.000-05:002008-04-30T19:34:00.000-05:00jccvi, thank you for your thoughtful suggestions. ...jccvi, thank you for your thoughtful suggestions. We've discussed many of those issues. <BR/><BR/>At this point, I think it's just hard for us to view the future optimistically when the Memphis Zoo still refuses to acknowledge that Memphis taxpayers (who supply 34% of the Zoo's yearly funding, according to the Commercial Appeal) have any right to be concerned that four acres of old-growth Naomi Van Tolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132516900840559976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-16218402378291484582008-04-30T18:25:00.000-05:002008-04-30T18:25:00.000-05:00I find it interesting that supporters of the CPOP ...I find it interesting that supporters of the CPOP cause would be critical of name-bashing. This blog has been pretty mean to Brian Carter personally. I understand that Mr. Carter is the Director of Communications for the Zoo and CPOP supporters don't agree with the Zoo's stance, but Brian is actually a really nice guy who is just doing his job. I agree with sticking to the issue, rather than Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-15984928743934477192008-04-30T15:27:00.000-05:002008-04-30T15:27:00.000-05:00I wonder if your ultimate cause might be served be...I wonder if your ultimate cause might be served better if you backed off the zoo bashing(and for that matter Park Friends bashing) in general, and hit more on the specific goal you're working toward.<BR/><BR/>Am I correct in saying that CPOP wants the fence removed and assurances that no more section of the old forest will be encroached upon? Some sort of protective easement similar to what jccvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05308158236628593739noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-36898010174922197132008-04-30T15:21:00.000-05:002008-04-30T15:21:00.000-05:00If my parents didn't care enough to give me a name...If my parents didn't care enough to give me a name, I'd be cranky too...<BR/><BR/><BR/>But seriously, Anonymous, let me run something by you. Let's suppose you really love tigers. You love them so much, you visit the Memphis Zoo at least twice a week just so you can spend an hour gazing at the tigers and refreshing your spirit.<BR/><BR/>Now let's suppose the Memphis Zoo decides to euthanize the Naomi Van Tolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132516900840559976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-51022339305761074092008-04-30T14:45:00.000-05:002008-04-30T14:45:00.000-05:00Hey Anonymous 1:If there were more wilderness and ...Hey Anonymous 1:<BR/><BR/>If there were more wilderness and unfenced nature in Memphis, then the violence in Memphis City Schools would not be such a problem. <BR/><BR/>Ever think about that? <BR/><BR/>...poor nephews...<BR/>We all saw what happened at the San Francisco Zoo when kids with nature-deficit-disorder and supposedly caged tigers mix...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-8058481225609754772008-04-30T11:43:00.000-05:002008-04-30T11:43:00.000-05:00Mr. Anonymous, you're going to waste a googlable c...Mr. Anonymous, you're going to waste a googlable commenting opportunity by calling us idiots? Why not point out the flaws in the illogic? Even if it contradicts everything advocated here, it wouldn't be deleted (as this won't) and it might even be respected.<BR/><BR/>But instead you name call and then descend into a Rovian you're with us (embrace stupid acts) or against us (oppose stupid acts).gatesofmemphishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00401189819920871321noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-90146454008220896572008-04-30T10:10:00.000-05:002008-04-30T10:10:00.000-05:00You people are idiots. I thought long and hard abo...You people are idiots. I thought long and hard about a nice way to say that, but there isn't one. The Memphis Zoo provides a great experience for locals, visitors, young people, old people and so on. If I had a choice of taking my nephews to the zoo and letting them see a tiger up close or letting them loose in the woods to pick up some dead, diseased turtle shell, I'm opting for the Memphis Zoo.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-9874322691195527022008-04-30T07:12:00.000-05:002008-04-30T07:12:00.000-05:00I know we agreed on 50 cents, but a premium shout ...I know we agreed on 50 cents, but a premium shout out like that is worth at least $1.<BR/><BR/>;-)Naomi Van Tolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11132516900840559976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1425913900816905740.post-11091641289784847402008-04-29T22:30:00.000-05:002008-04-29T22:30:00.000-05:00Is that a shout out?Is that a shout out?jccvihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05308158236628593739noreply@blogger.com